Interviewer: Tanaka Hirokazu
Translation: Ganba Renai
WACK, the agency with mostly girl groups starting with BiSH, has recently debuted the dance and vocal male unit “BOYSGROUP”, and the idol group “TONAi BOUSHO” in a collaboration with TBS variety show “Wednesday’s Downtown”, showing new expansions. At the same time their flagship group BiSH have announced their disbandment to take place on June 29th at Tokyo Dome.
NATALIE music continues in 2023 the yearly tradition of “WACK discussion” where we hear about each group’s current situation. This year we have Cent Chihiro Chittiii (henceforth Chittiii) from BiSH, Toggy from BiS, Ainastar (Nasu) from GANG PARADE, mayu from ExWHYZ, Aika the Spy from MAMESHiBA NO TAiGUN, Chicchichichiichiichii (CCCCCC) from ASP and Miku from TONAi BOUSHO. We heard from each group’s current situation to member’s worries you wouldn’t normally hear about, and at the end there’re messages from all members of all 7 groups.
WACK’s Newest Group, TONAi BOUSHO
This is the 5th year of our “WACK discussion meeting” but, there aren’t many occasions for all different WACK groups to sit and talk, are there? Especially TONAi BOUSHO, who just started activities in December.
Miku: We talked a bit just before.
mayu: It was just a little chat that makes you wonder what you even talked about (laughs).
Nasu: Ah, we did talk about “Will you attend the WACK 2023 audition camp?”
Miku: That’s right. I still haven’t heard anything, including the camp dates.

Chittiii: Everyone’s the same. We still don’t know if BiSH members will attend this year. Today is the first time I talked properly with Miku-san but, because I watched “Monster love”(Wednesday’s Downtown segment) before she even joined WACK, it felt like “She just came out of the screen!”. The development between Kuro-chan and Richi-san… I couldn’t wrap my mind around it (see: Tonai Bousho’s Richi quits the group to date Kuro-chan, the passionate kiss scene that made viewers agonize)
Aika: Watching it live made me think that Kuro-chan’s psychopathic tricks haven’t changed
Chittiii: You sound like an ex-girlfriend.
Aika: No! That’s wrong (laughs).
Chittiii: I think Kuro-chan really has no interest in any other group but MAMESHiBA and TONAi BOUSHO. He likes cute idols, he said once he really has no interest in BiSH.

Nasu: In GANG PARADE he’s only interested in Naruhaworld (laughs).
By the way, is anybody here connected to any of the other members in any way?
mayu: I’m good friends with Tsukino (Usagi) from GANG PARADE.
Toggy: It doesn’t seem like there’s anyone else. Because Miku-san asked for my LINE, we exchanged a few messages. She sent me a video of a dog cafe once so I went there.
Chittiii: Ah, perhaps she looked at Toggy and thought “I can win over this one”?
Miku: No way! I have really liked BiS since a long time ago, I went to their lives. I was really happy when she congratulated me for joining TONAi BOUSHO.
Looking at groups Kuro-chan is affiliated with, MAMESHiBA would be TONAi BOUSHO’s senior but, did that cause any fighting over Kuro-chan?
Aika: Fighting? I don’t think so. But Kuro-chan did say he wouldn’t create another group beside MAMESHiBA and if he did he would pay us 10 million yen. So I did think he was a liar, but there’s nothing like jealousy (laughs).

Tonai Bousho has just started activities so could you please introduce yourself?
Miku: TONAi BOUSHO is a group born from the segment “Monster Love” on the TBS show “Wednesday’s Downtown”. It was a segment where Kuro-chan would choose a girlfriend among girls that liked him, but an idol audition took place at the same time. There were girls that participated because they wanted to become idols. Including myself, girls that wanted to become idols would pretend to like Kuro-chan: We would act so Kuro-chan would like us. In the end we debuted as a 3 member unit group that included Richi, who actually liked Kuro-chan but, just as the on air showed, because Richi decided to date Kuro-chan she quit the group and now it’s just me and Mina.
mayu: You showed the result of practicing conversation earlier (laughs).
Miku: I was nervous… (laughs). Apparently as a Kuro-chan concept, MAMESHiBA-san runs in the traditional cute idol line, TONAi BOUSHO would run the cool fashionable path. MAMESHiBA-san has outfits that show their belly button, TONAi BOUSHO shows our armpits, the image of using less fabric.
mayu: Miku-san was interested in WACK, not Kuro-chan, right?
Miku: Yes. I’ve always liked WACK idols. Starting from mayu-san now, I’m really nervous to be in front of everyone from WACK groups; I also went to EMPiRE lives. So I thought I wanted to realize my dream of joining WACK, I applied to last year’s summer audition (see: WACK 2022 audition in SUMMER! The destiny of the successful applicant…). After we debuted I could experience performing live. Most people knew us from “Wednesday’s Downtown”, the impression is that most people were different from the usual idol fans, so to speak. I want to work hard so Tonai Bousho can become a loved group that’s part of WACK.
Toggy: BiS’s Hyuga also took this audition and passed so she’s basically from the same generation as Miku.
Miku: Hyuga-san said “We joined the company at around the same time, so let’s talk informally”, so lately we message on LINE.
mayu: You message Toggy, Hyuga… you use LINE a lot! (laughs).

WACK’s main group disbanding at Tokyo Dome: BiSH
BiSH decided on their disbandment back in 2019 and announced it in 2021. Then in 2022 it was decided the disbandment live will take place at Tokyo Dome on June 29th. As the time approaches, I believe the reality of disbandment is taking on but, between deciding on disbandment and the day you actually announced it, was there a change of feelings with your activities?
Chittii: There were so many changes it’s hard to put into words. But even in the process of deciding on it and announcing it, every member’s feeling was different. Depending on the period, the way time passed felt different, the relation to other people is also changing. All 6 of us are going through a lot of changes. Among that was the announcement on December 22nd last year, our precise goal was decided. Facing the Tokyo Dome that is now the endpoint, everyone is now in a situation we’re facing in the same direction. Nevertheless, having the endpoint decided is something sad. While having conflicts, now as BiSH, it’s important to think on how much we can combust, we’re living while facing the things right in front of us with all our energy.
CCCCCC: I learned about the disbandment while I was still a fan, before joining WACK. We just had a live with BiSH-san the other day, and they also appeared in ASP’s 24 hour live as guests; their speeches, the way they perform, they taught us a lot. When the day of disbandment was announced I was surprised, like “There’s only 6 months left.” I was taken by desolation but, I started to think things like how much we can close down the gap between us and BiSH, who are running at full speed, how much we can absorb from them.

mayu: Our start was as an opening act for BiSH-san’s tour, we were assisted by them ever since the EMPiRE era. While we would get lost and compare ourselves to others, we were continuously impacted by BiSH’s uniqueness, we continued to watch BiSH’s backs. We also started to think about our own uniqueness, to protect it, to not compare ourselves to others, we cherish the perspective of how we want to present ourselves. But even so, BiSH’s disbandment is very sad. During WACK tour we watched BiSH’s live from the two man we had with them from the audience but, I couldn’t hold my tears in “Orchestra”, even in “Pyo.” after that I was crying the whole time. It’s my feelings overflowing but, that’s how large BiSH’s presence is to me.
Nasu: I took part in auditions every year when I was in WAgg, there were many times I was teamed up with BiSH members. Lingling-san, Ayuni D-san, Momoko-san, I also entered the bath with Chittii-san (laughs).
Toggy: I saw a photo from that time (laughs).
Chittii: I like entering the bath with everyone. I also like taking sneak photos (laughs). It’s not like that’s a hobby but, when I looked at the photos by myself I wouldn’t stop laughing, so I ended up showing Toggy.
Nasu: You won’t show it to the world right? (laughs) I wasn’t able to succeed in the 2021 audition but, I had a lot of performances with Lingling-san, they made me think “I’m really happy to have such an artist as a senior that will face me directly”. Among many other candidates, Lingling-san thought about how I would be able to pass, as if it was her herself.
Chittii: For Lingling I think that was the first time she was in a position of acting like a senior. Until then she always ran from having an interest in that position. By being with Lingling I could see how much she changed in that audition camp. By teaming up with Ainastar she learned how to face her juniors, so I think that to Lingling, Ainastar is a junior she has a lot of attachment to, the experiences in that camp became something really meaningful.
Nasu: After the camp during the WACK tour, Lingling-san took the trouble to come to our waiting room and asked me “Is there anything troubling you?”. Even though I was already thankful she would show her big presence as BiSH, I was really inspired by how she connected with more love than anyone else. I’m the type to quickly spiral when things get hard but, I learned how to properly face people in front of me, treasuring connecting with others earnestly and with love.

Full of ups and downs, but makes you feel happiness: BiS
BiS just successfully had their one man live at Hibiya Open Concert Hall but, since last year members kept leaving, it seems hard…
Toggy: It is… During summer of 2022 one member left, then in autumn when we thought Hyuga was joining, 2 original members left in January this year. Now we’re in a 3 member lineup, we have done only one live with this new formation so, everything starts from now. I’m an original member of BiS 3rd generation so from Nano3 and Hyuga’s perspective of joining later, they might suddenly lean on me for responsibility, so with the resolution of being a member of BiS I feel “I must take the lead” already. In the meaning of this being an environment we can each evolve in. I’m perceiving it as a good change.
Chittii: I still haven’t watched a performance with the new lineup but, with the 2 (Neo Trees, Ito Musensiteebu) leaving, I don’t think for a second it was a minus for BiS. But I do worry a lot because it seems really hard. BiS is a group that broke many times and many times put themselves back together. I really like the current positive BiS 3rd generation. You just have to start a new BiS from now, in other words, it’s enviable that you get to have a new start. The 3 of you have nothing but potential, you can be anything. I believe it’s hard for Toggy to be in a leadership position as someone who piled up many experiences, but I want you to grow as a group, lifting other members. I want you to become strong, consulting with other groups without any reservations.
Toggy: Just as Chittii-san said, as the interested party, I don’t feel uneasy about current BiS. Including the response we have as 3, I have a strong feeling of looking forward from now on. More than uneasiness I feel happiness that I can continue activities with members I want to be in BiS with.

Aika: During the WACK tour we had our first live concert with 3 member BiS. Watching the show, the performance of the 3 of them was amazing. I really felt that every BiS member has a lot of love for the group. There was this vigor of “Now it’s the start!”. Looking at the audience response… to be honest I thought “MAMESHiBA is losing”… We have our own issues but, that’s another thing, I’m really looking forward to BiS-san’s activities from now on.
Crowded with 13 personalities: GANG PARADE
GANG PARADE is currently a large family with 13 members but, I’m curious about how you put together the performance as a group with so many people.
Nasu: It has been one year since the members active as GO TO THE BEDS and PARADISES until 2021 started as GANG PARDE again…. In May, me and Potential joined and Naruha, who was on hiatus, returned, so now we have a 13 member lineup. When it was decided I would join there were 10 but I didn’t think they would add 3 more. I didn’t want GANG PARADE to become a group that just added 3 more members, so now it’s still trial and error. The formation of existing songs changed completely and were remade for 13 people. For example, the formation for “Plastic 2 mercy” took 3 days to be remade; While testing the energetic performance we would run into each other during practice to the point it looked like we would injure ourselves. But in any case, I think having such a big number is a weapon, so now we’re thinking how to take advantage of that weapon.
With a big family performance, it’s hard to understand the full picture
Ainasu: It is. But the stage’s bamiri (the numbers written on stage to help verify the positions) became really specific. 1.75, 2.25, etc. Me and Sei (Potential) are always getting angry at, like “You’re not aligned!” (laughs).
Chittii: Indeed, with so many people I feel I can understand this somewhat strong tone. Also with this many people you also have this many worries, I believe there can be a lot of stepbacks. But I’m not worried in the slightest because the GANG PARADE members pushed through things just like triathletes, and without giving up just like soldiers. But because there are a lot of things I think “They are awkward…”, I feel like barging in with no hesitation, actually there are times I say to Maika, Coco, Terashima (Yuuka/Yuyu), Doku (Yui Ga Dockson) like “If it was BiSH we would do it like this” (laughs). Because it’s been about 8 years we know each other, there are times when conversations like this happen.


By the way for 1 or 2 years I’ve heard Yamamachi Miki-san say something about “sense of regret”. Like “The group being split and having big changes happening is because we lack something”.
Chittii: That might be right. The way we perceive BiSH as a group, it’s because our personalities and way of life are completely different, I think GANG PARADE has this now. The foundation for that are Yamamachi and Yumeno (Yua). After that Maika joined, bringing amplitude and flexibility to the group. Because I think Maika was the one that made the things solidified by Yamamachi and Yua more flexible, I believe that flow is connected to the current lineup. Just by having 13 members, that itself is a very strong point. If there are 13 worries, there are 13 movements, there’s potential. The variety factor is also very strong, BiSH skits don’t make people laugh.
Toggy: BiSH skits are funny!
Chittii: I think it varies from person to person but, I’m really jealous of GANG PARADE that can make anything unique.
Nasu: We stopped relying on Doku for the skits, so now (Kila) May and Baby (Changbaby) mainly make the script, and Doku refines them. That and during lives we’re fixing Baby as the MC after introductions. Baby is now working hard to succeed in the fail technique, so I’d be happy if everyone noticed that.
Toggy: We had a tour last summer with GANG PARADE but, the choreography did change a lot, didn’t it? It’s easy to understand the good points of a big family, I also felt the charm of a big family during the live as well. I was especially impressed by the formation – it’s not off, even by a single milimeter.
Pushing forward without breaking their attack stance: ExWHYZ
ExWHYZ is the “bright new talent” group. After being formed with EMPiRE members, midoriko, who was on hiatus, returned this January and I believe things are starting to finally align but, what kinds of changes were there compared to the EMPiRE era?
mayu: After passing the EMPiRE disbandment I believe all members’ challenging spirit became stronger. “We should do things like this”, we increased sharing our opinions, I think a big change was everyone was able to express their more aggressive feelings. This and that, I believe now exists because of the experiences we piled up as EMPiRE. ExWHYZ released “xYZ” (1st album) with participation from big names in the creator world but that was also a lot of pressure. Everyone felt quite cornered (laughs). We were raised with Matsukuma (Kenta/SCRAMBLES) songs, so it wasn’t easy to build something with creators we were meeting for the first time. But the members were really positive, facing everything with an optimistic perspective, so even though we had hesitations, the feeling of looking forward to the future was greater than the uneasiness regarding something new. That’s why I think it’d be nice if we could move forward in this bright atmosphere. We had our Budokan live decided so we fired up more than ever.
Miku: I’ve liked ExWHYZ-san ever since EMPiRE era. That’s why from a fan’s perspective I was really happy when the Budokan concert was announced. As someone from a group also from WACK, even if we say “We want to perform at Budokan”, it’s just not real. But as a fan I was really taken aback by the reality of a group I always liked performing at Budokan.
mayu: That’s it. The staff that always supported us from early EMPiRE days, there’s this feeling of a flat relationship. That’s why if we were entrusted, I want to work hard, it’s an environment where we can convey the things we think as well. There’s the SE called “xYZ” that plays before lives but, at first there weren’t plans to dance. But when we talked about “It’d be cool if we could enter the stage with the SE and dance just like that”, we challenged it by facing reality. I’m happy it’s a free environment.


Being able to break through without being swallowed by negativity: ASP
ASP had its major debut last summer, the mobilization of lives is also gradually increasing, isn’t it?
CCCCCC: ASP had its major debut last August and in December, we finished the “GOD SAVE the ASP TOUR” at Zepp DiverCity (TOKYO). Riontown and I looked back to last year’s WACK tour before we joined with Nai-chan (Namaenai/Nameless). She said “We had motivation but, we had nothing but motivation”. Now we perform each live thinking about what is absolutely necessary.
For CCCCCC-san is now in circumstances you gain something after performing live repeatedly?
CCCCC: Since me and Riontown joined ASP last April we went on tour twice but, to be honest, the first time I couldn’t think about anything but myself. The second time the final stage at Zepp DiverCity (TOKYO) was a challenge for us personally and in terms of capacity, so each live in other places, we performed thinking about that Zepp live ahead. Doing that in addition to simplifying the situation, we were also able to start doing activities proper.
Are there times you face the dilemma “I wanted to do that way though!”?
CCCCCC: ASP carries the feeling of failing more than doing things right. There are a lot of gloomy members (laughs). After lives more than “That was good” everyone starts to apologize “I’m sorry” one after another.
Chittii: The groups are also so different. But after lives the first thing you must talk about is not reflect on what needs improvement but instead “Was it fun or not?”. If you can share “It was fun” first, then after that it’s ok to reflect on points. That reflection is not a negative thing. I often say “It’s not about whether we failed or not, but whether we had fun or not”. That is the most important, “if everyone had fun, that is the live’s correct answer”. Not reflecting on things isn’t good but, making mistakes is of every human’s nature. BiSH members too, in big lives someone will make one mistake. But not being caught on to it and entering the “improved” mode is a matter of the mind, enjoying each live or not is something we pull out ourselves. Even after taking that into account if you feel it wasn’t fun, it’ll considerably be a worse live, so when that happens make sure to reflect on it properly. Even if you perform pondering a lot, it’ll become stiff and probably not a good live.
Toggy: It’s not good to make a lot of mistakes but, I think it’s ok to just take care to not make the same mistake in the next one. That’s why if apologizing became an established practice, the moment you make a mistake you’ll think “Ah, I’ll have to apologize today as well”. I think during a performance that will make your mood drop.
Chittiii: That is not good. There isn’t one person that likes to apologize (laughs).
CCCCCC: Recently we had a women and students only tour but, the mood is different from normal tours, the people able to attend are limited but in a good way there is “familiarity feeling”. We started to enjoy that difference, during the WACK tour as well were moments we felt we had fun so, I want to continue sharing that.


Speaking of which, Third Generation BiS too found balance by trial and error. You turned around after putting too much energy into things in the past.
Toggy: That was about 2 years ago I think, we were running wild when we were put together with BiSH during the WACK tour. We thought too much about “We must do a better live than BiSH, we must make people think we are cooler than BiSH”, we ended up leaving the audience behind. We managed to perform a live full of motivation but, watching BiSH live after ours we realized “Ah, we were wrong”. No matter how much motivation you put into it, if you don’t make the audience have fun and have fun yourself, people will not think you are acting cool. Perhaps if ASP is now the same way BiS was back then, I think things will improve.
CCCCCC: Thank you.
Chittii: It was the live Toggy said “I’ll beat you to death”. We were indifferent but the vigor back then, the proactive feeling was amazing. But somehow I thought that was a waste.
Toggy: That time I went back home and reflected on it……
Chittii: The most important thing is for members to have fun performing. If the members have fun the audience will have fun as well. Performing a strict live will just make the audience feel troubled.
Toggy: But maybe that’s a path everyone walks. The timing in which the feeling of not wanting to lose comes first. If you can realize that, it’ll become a good experience.
Even with new members, they’re in a critical situation: MAMESHiBA NO TAiGUN
Last December Kaedephoenix left MAMESHiBA NO TAiGUN, this January new members joined. So, not only did the members change, you had an eventful year.
Aika: In December we had the “MAMESHiBA NO TAiGUN Audition Camp”, the new members Leona Empire and Momotingale joined. Members with strong personalities joined, I do think the group as a whole became brighter but, the other 4 didn’t show any result at the camp. We were given a probationary period of “if you don’t improve in 1 year you must leave”. That’s why now we’re in a pinch, if each member can’t change then the 4 of us won’t be able to stay in MAMESHiBA. But exactly because the new members joined, we feel stimulated, now I’m exceedingly thinking “I won’t lose to myself or to anyone”. MAMESHiBA members all have that freedom, but that is actually a bad thing. That’s why we must correct ourselves so this bad aspect doesn’t show. Because I don’t want the new members to feel uncomfortable, not thinking about the 1 year extension, I want to improve day by day, faster and faster.

Aika-san doesn’t have the image of speaking opinions publicly but, you must have certainly suffered over it.
Aika: Yes…… To be honest, while doing activities there were moments I thought “We can’t continue like that”. “Is this practice enough?”. I couldn’t tell other members what I thought but, after the camp I became able to do it, thanks to that I think everyone’s stance towards practice changed. Having personalities so different is a weapon, but I want to match all the places we can. Because we became able to say this kind of stuff to each other, I want to improve at a faster pace than we did so far. And also……
Chittiii-san, what should we do to voice our opinions?
Aika: I’m afraid to say what I think. Chittii-san, when I’m afraid to tell something to the other members, what should I do….?
Chittii: Scary things are scary. I’m actually the type to not say anything at all. That’s why instead of talking directly to the person, you can say “this is like that, if we do that this will happen”, and convey it in an indirect conversation in a way that won’t displease anyone, or conveying it going by other people.
Aika: I see. I can’t quite say it directly……
Chittii: If there is someone in the group that can say things directly is a relief but, even so it’s not good to be in a situation where you rely on “ah that person will say something”. That’s why if you think “Ah no one will say anything”, it’s ok if it’s not directly, but it’s important to voice your opinion


Aika: Indeed. If everyone is on edge it becomes a stiff atmosphere.
Chittii: Yes yes, that’s why in BiSH my role is to be the one to sugarcoat things. But if things aren’t going smoothly to me too I become emotional and break down really hard, so, there are about 2 people that will cover that. It’s weird but, in BiSH there’s something structured somehow like it’s own society. If I was in a situation like MAMESHiBA now, I’d not care in the slightest if I was disliked. If I’m fired that’s the end, I think if I don’t say anything the group will end, so if we don’t butt heads, the group won’t easily change. This is something I can say about current BiSH as well. If we don’t change 5 times more than we think we need to, it won’t be clear to outsiders, it’s no good to think internally “We changed”. Hearing everything I thought it’s important to work hard so people around you think “Ah they changed”.
Aika: Thank you very much…. I’ll do my best.
Chittii: In the end, the audience, the staff, everyone can see the result. SNS or at lives. In the end there are aspects of “Result is everything” that I dislike but that’s how the world is. As long as you are part of WACK, you’ll constantly be demanded, everyone worries but, I hope you work hard to not lose.
mayu: During EMPiRE era we had a period of similar worry. To the point I thought we would disband if things continued like that. Furthermore, if you aren’t able to leave this situation there’s a moment even the staff will become distant. That’s why I thought that was bad, I exploded like “It’s no good to continue like this! It’s bad to continue acting the same way we have until now!”, to the point of going too far.
Toggy: That EMPiRE situation, I saw it. It was scary.
mayu: There were actually other times like that too. But after that the members started to think for themselves so it was good. I don’t wanna say things myself but, it’s a situation where you must say something. Being able to say it, it’s because you trust your companions.
Chittii: That’s right. Taking the position of being the one to say things like mayu did, in MAMESHiBA’s case, that’s probably gonna be Aika.
Aika: I think the one to say it it’s Miyuki but, I think it’s not on the same point of thinking as mayu-san. Nao (of Nao) and Hanae (Monster) also have their opinions, it’s different when brainstorming ends up becoming an argument.
Chittii: You want to make it so it becomes a proper discussion.
Nasu: When talking between members in GANG PARADE isn’t getting settled, the manager organized an opportunity in which each member would have their chance to speak. It was supposed to be 5 minutes per member, but depending on the person it got up to 2 hours.
Chittii: That’s also bothersome!
Nasu: It really is….. The manager spoke with everyone without sparing time to sleep. Having so many members there are times it becomes a quarrel, there are times it becomes somehow divided, like a faction.


Aika: But I’m relieved now. I thought MAMESHiBA was the only one getting strained.
Chittii: Not at all. Beyond being in a group, there are times you clash, there are times you get strained forever (laughs).
Aika: I was told I’m not the type to voice opinions but, as expected if I don’t say things MAMESHiBA won’t change. That’s why I thought it’s ok if I’m disliked, I want to say the things I think of. To ask for advice is also important.
Chittii: It’d be good if you can find a good balance, without going too far. Well what I talked about is just the way I do things. There’s also the occasion you continue to collide and break and that makes the group itself break, so that doesn’t happen, you gotta think as you go.
Being open about everything is WACK, WACK’s future from now on
It hasn’t been long since Miku-san joined WACK, what did you think of hearing all this so far?
Miku: To talk about such things….! Is that ok to use in an article?
Chittii: There isn’t such a thing as an article having one purpose!
Miku: I see….. Even though TONAi BOUSHO was 3, Richi-chan left and there are just 2 of us now. Not because there are few members, like every member’s personality becomes the group’s image, there’s the feeling everyone grasps the helm of the group’s direction. That’s why, I think new members will join but I still can’t envision what will happen.


Chittii: On the other hand, isn’t it better that new members join? With just 2 of you nothing will happen.
Miku: Exactly why nothing will start, there’s the pressure that now is the period that will become the foundation.
Chittii: Nothing like that. Because nothing will start, it’s ok to not worry about anything, there’s no such thing as a foundation.
Mayu: Yes yes. Even the members now, even if new members join, it’s ok to just build TONAi BOUSHO together. It’s just starting.
Chittii: If you can accept the differences, you can advance as a group.
Thinking logically, it’d be good if you can work hard towards your goal.
Miku: That’s right. I’m sorry I can’t talk skillfully. What should I do about comments and interviews……
Chittii: That’s fine! Back when BiSH started I was the only one that talked during interviews. Other members wouldn’t speak, I would be like “Are you serious?”, everyone wasn’t even able to do self introductions, so I’d say “here you say “Good morning!”, here you say “Thanks for the hard work”, until they finally become able to do it. But that’s something that happens a lot in the beginning so there’s nothing you can do.
Aika: In the beginning I would rely on Nao to be the one to assume the talking lead. But by doing interviews everyone started to be able to talk. Everyone started to be able to take initiative and introduce themselves, it’s just that you’re not used to it yet so it’s fine.

We should wrap up soon. Chittii-san, please share your impressions of this discussion.
Chittii: Everyone is worrying about things you can’t see on the surface, everyone goes through trial and error to build their respective groups, if there wasn’t an opportunity like this discussion, people wouldn’t know that. It’s now like everything is happy but, WACK’s strength is to be able to show this human aspect of worrying. Making that a weapon in 2023, I wish for everyone to continue loving WACK, without hate, and being able to move forward. There’s half a year until BiSH’s disbandment. BiSH wants to properly leave their memories, being able to do the “We will WACK you!! TOUR” is the realization of BiSH member’s wishes to perform with the other groups, so I was really happy we could do it. I think everyone in other groups are really reliable so, I’m looking forward seeing the activities of everyone from now on.

